Eric 'Trinkets&Nopes' Baumgarten 2015-08-24T13:34:40-04:00
Well, kiss my grits! It sure has gone quiet.
I waneed to talk shop with Zem about shucking and detasseling corn. Looks like the lad is to busy with his learning
Eric 'Trinkets&Nopes' Baumgarten 2015-08-24T13:37:25-04:00
@Jisse, parlez vous Exploding Kittens!!!
Eric 'Trinkets&Nopes' Baumgarten 2015-08-24T13:39:15-04:00
voulez-vous du beurre?
Lord Zombitten 2015-08-24T13:39:45-04:00
I wonder why the NSFW is on Amazon. Not that I really care; I just thought it was supposed to be KS exclusive. In all reality, I always hoped it wouldn't be.
Eric 'Trinkets&Nopes' Baumgarten 2015-08-24T13:46:01-04:00
Hiya, @LZ.
Yeah, I was also under the impression that it was KS exclusive. I'm guessing it was going to be, until the mother effer blew the heck up!!!
Eric 'Trinkets&Nopes' Baumgarten 2015-08-24T13:47:15-04:00
They probably ordered soooooooooo many decks that they need to get rid of them somehow.
Could also be someone claiming to be the EK team selling off extras they bought.
Powers of Tesla 2015-08-24T14:16:29-04:00
I wonder why those didn't come up when I searched Exploding Kittens? Huh.
As to the NSFW decks, they kinda hedged on it. When it was a 20 card expansion pack it was kickstarter exclusive, when they expanded to a full deck that caveat went away.
BTW I've sent an email to Elan asking if it is in fact them on Amazon and warning them that there is likely to be a cascade of "very unhappy" emails from backers who have not received their decks.
Powers of Tesla 2015-08-24T14:20:31-04:00
Okay... looking back at the campaign page it DOES still say "The NSFW deck Kickstarter exclusive"
Oh boy.....
Lord Zombitten 2015-08-24T14:26:26-04:00
Let us know what Elan says
C.F. "The Ex-President" Heyns 2015-08-24T14:31:03-04:00
Just got a response, as per TEP, the announce went out today, a public announce will be made at noon (I presume PST). They wanted to give their mailing list folks time to get their orders in first.
I sent him the quote I posted below from the main page, and warned him there is a tidal wave of discontent coming his way. Oh deary, dear.
Powers of Tesla 2015-08-24T14:57:37-04:00
Why can't I type announcement all of a sudden? I got it wrong twice.
Another reply from Elan just hit. He is aware of the campaign page quote.
C.F. "The Ex-President" Heyns 2015-08-24T14:58:11-04:00
Send an email to the address. Make your subject line very short and specific.
Explain your situation in the body if the email.
They are getting up to 1000 emails a day.
It may take 2 weeks or longer to get a response. Or you might even get your cards without getting a responsive email.
Jeff "Great Cane of Doom"™ Saxton 2015-08-24T16:29:44-04:00
Yep, my reading of it is that the NSFW deck was supposed to be a KS exclusive, and while I understand why they are now selling them direct, it does highlight the fact that there are absolutely no legal definitions of limited edition or exclusive anymore. If it is mass produced, it will get sold in a mass market way.
I personally am not worried, but as others have pointed out, there will be a shit-storm of complainers now.
Eric 'Trinkets&Nopes' Baumgarten 2015-08-24T16:31:57-04:00
Howdy, @GCoD.
And unlike the shipping questions we have been so diligently assisting backers on, there's not much we can do but agree with them and hopefully calm them down
Jeff "Great Cane of Doom"™ Saxton 2015-08-24T16:34:35-04:00
Well, I'm glad I didn't stock up on "super rare" things now ... seeing as anyone can get them ... it something made in the half-million range could ever be considered "rare".
Eric 'Trinkets&Nopes' Baumgarten 2015-08-24T16:35:09-04:00
When expectations went from 500 backers to nearly 220,000 of us, I think they threw away the book and are handling things as best as they can, while trying to stay as small as they can.
Eric 'Trinkets&Nopes' Baumgarten 2015-08-24T16:37:11-04:00
Exactly my point I made on the other site. What, 220,000-300,000 special boxes and decks. Not so exclusive.
Daniel Charleston 2015-08-24T17:00:04-04:00
Arrived on island today. Thanks!!
Micah "Zem the Mattress" Philson 2015-08-24T17:01:34-04:00
No, they said near a million decks overall. That's definitely not rare. Though I think they should absolutely only sell the over-production of special edition boxes, maybe for $100. That one is pretty important to the backers. The NSFW, though, should be paired with Cards Against Humanity for a night of full, 18+ humor. I'm perfectly fine with that one being sold still.
Rod "BaKhan" Mitchell 2015-08-24T17:32:28-04:00
Unless of course they made some sort of chair, or better yet a throne of kittens!
I think the only people who will be really pissed about the non-exclusivity thing would be those looking to resell on eBay, and such. I do not fall into that catagory.
Lord Zombitten 2015-08-24T17:38:02-04:00
I remember seeing the same complaint about Zombicide Season 3 (that it was available for purchase before all the backers had theirs). Now, I'm not saying those who haven't received theirs yet shouldn't be upset, because I know I would be at this time if I still had not received mine. But, folks also need to realize that the game has to go to market at some time if the company that makes it is going to survive. You will get what's coming to you. The fact that others can buy it now won't prevent that.
nahidl 2015-08-24T17:38:30-04:00
Has anyone found an easy way to separate the NSFW deck from the original deck? I have tried to do it by reading the cards but I guess my NSFW filter is really low and I am having trouble splitting them up.
Yeah the sets listed at $150 on eBay are going to take a hit.
Lord Zombitten 2015-08-24T17:39:40-04:00
@BaKhan, they deserve what they get. Trying to profit off of others' hard work is a slimy thing to do.
Rod "BaKhan" Mitchell 2015-08-24T17:40:01-04:00
@nahidl, in faint writing on the lower left side of the cards it tells you. Either NSFW or 1st edition.
Rod "BaKhan" Mitchell 2015-08-24T17:41:03-04:00
I actually suspect that is the reason for EK selling it as quickly as they have. Not to make another fist full of cash, but to regulate the greedy bastards on eBay.
Lord Zombitten 2015-08-24T17:42:51-04:00
That's a good point. There's probably something to that.
Could be, my phone has been known to be a bit of a lush
Micah "Zem the Mattress" Philson 2015-08-24T17:49:48-04:00
NAHIDL: Since this is moving really fast, I'll say it again: on the lower left hand corner of the cards it either says "First Edition" or "NSFW".
Rod "BaKhan" Mitchell 2015-08-24T17:50:46-04:00
I think EK should post an update, specifically addressing this issue. It won't stop the complainers, but it will reassure the majority of the backers. Best thing to do is get out in front of it.
Micah "Zem the Mattress" Philson 2015-08-24T17:50:54-04:00
My phone is pretty square as phones go. Boring, anti-social, not many fun things you can do with it...
Micah "Zem the Mattress" Philson 2015-08-24T17:52:13-04:00
I like that idea of why it was released so early, though. I'm laughing hard at all the "buy this now or you'll hate yourself forever. Normally it's $20, but for you, only $150!" decks.
Micah "Zem the Mattress" Philson 2015-08-24T17:54:15-04:00
I like how I left for a 10 minute video and had to scroll half a page to read all I missed! What's gonna happen when I go for supper here soon? Oh well, that should only be about 15 minutes or so total.
Micah "Zem the Mattress" Philson 2015-08-24T17:57:37-04:00
Good night, BaKhan!
Powers of Tesla 2015-08-24T17:57:53-04:00
Hiya House Arrest! Good to see you again! I have to take off for a Village Board meeting in my prospective new Village of residence. I need to get a feel for these people if I'm going to run against some of them for election. See ya'll later tonight. Keep yer heads down, the incoming fore is likely to get hot and heavy as backers find out about Amazon.
Micah "Zem the Mattress" Philson 2015-08-24T17:58:00-04:00
just how high do you have to be to come up with those lyrics
Micah "Zem the Mattress" Philson 2015-08-24T18:35:12-04:00
It's about an ideal place, like a mental getaway, but I'm not quite sure what inspired some of those lyrics, yeah. It's a great song though. First heard it in Hot Fuzz, one of my favorite movies of all time.
Eric 'Trinkets&Nopes' Baumgarten 2015-08-24T18:50:38-04:00
Sorry, misplaced my phone. Or more closely, my phone ran away to drink again.
I don't mean to be downer because I think the game is a lot of fun and the packaging is fantastic as well. However, the quality of the cards should be a lot better. Some of my cards are already getting bent corners and even separating from the card backs. I really wished they spent some of the 8 plus million on better quality cards.
Pete Davidson 2015-08-24T19:24:47-04:00
I see the NSFW deck is now on sale to non-backers. What did you mean by "kickstarter exclusive"?
Eric 'Trinkets&Nopes' Baumgarten 2015-08-24T19:29:21-04:00
@Mario
Have you thought about getting some sleeves to protect your cards?
Eric 'Trinkets&Nopes' Baumgarten 2015-08-24T19:30:28-04:00
@Pete, I don't think we will be getting an answer for that.
Micah "Zem the Mattress" Philson 2015-08-24T19:32:07-04:00
Mario: they almost lost money as it is. They're standard quality cards, if you've ever used a standard poker deck before. Actually, they're sturdier than Bicycle cards.
Micah "Zem the Mattress" Philson 2015-08-24T19:32:35-04:00
Pete, I think that went out the door when they sold over 220,000 orders. The special stuff was supposed to stay special edition, but I think when they made a million decks overall, they realized it could stay. Besides, it's their first expansion deck. I think it's a great idea to keep that; it'll be right alongside Cards Against Humanity as a dorm-room favorite. However, they're also rearing to sell the KS-exclusive boxes, but I'm certain that's just to get rid of all else they over-produced and won't actually go on sale like the other decks. Also, we think the decks went on sale just to put a dent in the people trying to sell their own boxes for a profit.
Eric 'Trinkets&Nopes' Baumgarten 2015-08-24T19:37:43-04:00
@Zem, even though I fully support the idea that it's overages they are selling on Amazon, and when they are gone it will be more of a "regular" box and decks and not the KS stuff, I don't think we will be getting an official explanation from the EK team on why the KS exclusive stuff is being sold to the public.
Eric 'Trinkets&Nopes' Baumgarten 2015-08-24T19:37:57-04:00
Also, how were your classes today?
Eric 'Tchotchke' Aschner 2015-08-24T19:39:14-04:00
I agree with you there Eric. I don't think we're going to get a real answer. I just know, in my mind, if they had said that any extra stock would be sold after the campaign, I still would have pledged the same.
Eric 'Tchotchke' Aschner 2015-08-24T19:45:31-04:00
I don't buy it that they couldn't make it exclusive at the volume they did. Two very good reasons, (1) it's much easier to make a run of something in volume, the cost would go down considerably when you're making a quarter-million copies. (2) They didn't turn it into a full deck until much much later. By that point it was already obvious it was going to be a volume project. The fact is a number of people bought multiple copies because this was to be their only chance for the special stuff. (make sure you have x-mas gifts, extra copies in case of damage, play-through, etc.) With as few as you see on eBay (compared to the total) by far most people that got multiple copies weren't planning on selling them. We ponied up ahead of time on a game we've never played to get extra copies of something that would never be sold again on the chance that we'd love it so much we'd play a copy all the way through.
Micah "Zem the Mattress" Philson 2015-08-24T19:45:53-04:00
Good point trinkets. We probably won't and we'll be left here to defend ourselves against the mighty demon hordes of the democratic-republic of internet.
Organic Chemistry was kinda fun, mostly because I love chemistry and know everyone in the front couple rows who just instinctively sat in the same order again. In general Physics, my professor is from Holland, which is kind of weird. (see what I did there?) But after that, I have 10 minutes hopefully to get all the way across campus to the Performing Arts building for the biggest course I've ever taken, a communications one that likely 80+% of the students are taking just for credit.
Then I bought 50 pounds of books for chemistry, an online code for the communications class, and just got the online thing for physics. CHEMISTRY!!!
Eric 'Trinkets&Nopes' Baumgarten 2015-08-24T19:46:12-04:00
Hey, Tchotchke, how's it going?
Zem's classes.
Micah "Zem the Mattress" Philson 2015-08-24T19:48:13-04:00
Oh, that's what's going on. Didn't the old wizard warn of what would happen if both Erics got together?! I mean, if I and Derp joined forces, the world as we know it would end, but this is pretty bad as it is.
Micah "Zem the Mattress" Philson 2015-08-24T19:49:33-04:00
Now all we need is Eric Idle or some name that starts with a C, like Coulson, and we'll have a 3-stooges get together, huh?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B010TU7LP2/ref=mp_s_a_1_12…
I also found the regular deck by EKLLC.
Forgot the link
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B010TQY7A8/ref=mp_s_a_1_14…
Well, kiss my grits! It sure has gone quiet.
I waneed to talk shop with Zem about shucking and detasseling corn. Looks like the lad is to busy with his learning
@Jisse, parlez vous Exploding Kittens!!!
voulez-vous du beurre?
I wonder why the NSFW is on Amazon. Not that I really care; I just thought it was supposed to be KS exclusive. In all reality, I always hoped it wouldn't be.
Hiya, @LZ.
Yeah, I was also under the impression that it was KS exclusive. I'm guessing it was going to be, until the mother effer blew the heck up!!!
They probably ordered soooooooooo many decks that they need to get rid of them somehow.
Yeah, probably
Could also be someone claiming to be the EK team selling off extras they bought.
I wonder why those didn't come up when I searched Exploding Kittens? Huh.
As to the NSFW decks, they kinda hedged on it. When it was a 20 card expansion pack it was kickstarter exclusive, when they expanded to a full deck that caveat went away.
BTW I've sent an email to Elan asking if it is in fact them on Amazon and warning them that there is likely to be a cascade of "very unhappy" emails from backers who have not received their decks.
Okay... looking back at the campaign page it DOES still say "The NSFW deck Kickstarter exclusive"
Oh boy.....
Let us know what Elan says
From the mail I just got:
http://www.explodingkittens.com/buy
sent via:
gimme@explodingkittens.com via mail77.atl31.mcdlv.net
I did sign up for them to let me know (@the exploding kittens website) when the game is available for general public release.
Funny about the NSFW edition, unless they meant that the Surprise in the box was KS only.
also, kittens for creeper:
http://9gag.com/gag/aVXvORP
Just got a response, as per TEP, the announce went out today, a public announce will be made at noon (I presume PST). They wanted to give their mailing list folks time to get their orders in first.
I sent him the quote I posted below from the main page, and warned him there is a tidal wave of discontent coming his way. Oh deary, dear.
Why can't I type announcement all of a sudden? I got it wrong twice.
Another reply from Elan just hit. He is aware of the campaign page quote.
*grabs popcorn*
@TeP: Did you bring enough popcorn for the Corp?...I want popcorn now.
I just posted to the club board. Please keep any discussion about it there.
Lookin' at you Zem.
I'm out for a couple of hours.
Dammit! Out of popcorn.
*Grabs honey roasted peanuts and heads over to other board,
I'm back now, Trinkets. Just bought about 50 pounds of books for the only class that doesn't have it online. Fun day.
Did you see the one star amazon review? I thought it was hilarious!
PoT Hey, the one time I said anything even remotely similar, it was really vague and didn't reveal anything!
@Zem, I think i know what PoT is referring to. I'll post it on the other site
Hi I missed the survey due to issues with my email, how can I claim my reward?
@Jose,
support@explodingkittens.com
Send an email to the address. Make your subject line very short and specific.
Explain your situation in the body if the email.
They are getting up to 1000 emails a day.
It may take 2 weeks or longer to get a response. Or you might even get your cards without getting a responsive email.
Yep, my reading of it is that the NSFW deck was supposed to be a KS exclusive, and while I understand why they are now selling them direct, it does highlight the fact that there are absolutely no legal definitions of limited edition or exclusive anymore. If it is mass produced, it will get sold in a mass market way.
I personally am not worried, but as others have pointed out, there will be a shit-storm of complainers now.
Howdy, @GCoD.
And unlike the shipping questions we have been so diligently assisting backers on, there's not much we can do but agree with them and hopefully calm them down
Well, I'm glad I didn't stock up on "super rare" things now ... seeing as anyone can get them ... it something made in the half-million range could ever be considered "rare".
When expectations went from 500 backers to nearly 220,000 of us, I think they threw away the book and are handling things as best as they can, while trying to stay as small as they can.
Exactly my point I made on the other site. What, 220,000-300,000 special boxes and decks. Not so exclusive.
Arrived on island today. Thanks!!
No, they said near a million decks overall. That's definitely not rare. Though I think they should absolutely only sell the over-production of special edition boxes, maybe for $100. That one is pretty important to the backers. The NSFW, though, should be paired with Cards Against Humanity for a night of full, 18+ humor. I'm perfectly fine with that one being sold still.
Unless of course they made some sort of chair, or better yet a throne of kittens!
BaKahn, short answer? I'm alive
Oh how I've missed the comments section
@House Arrest, ouch! That doesn't sound so good... :(
I'd like to see a throne of kittens!
Wow, all that in 4 minutes? Hi, house arrest! Good to see ya.
I definitely wouldn't have changed my order at all. I love this game! And can't afford more than one of each deck...
Oh it's not that bad, at least I have my exploding kittens
Man, both here and the forum have just been completely busy all day! Well, since after noon here, but still, pretty eventful!
Hiya Zem
@HA, glad you got your kittehs at least!
I think the only people who will be really pissed about the non-exclusivity thing would be those looking to resell on eBay, and such. I do not fall into that catagory.
I remember seeing the same complaint about Zombicide Season 3 (that it was available for purchase before all the backers had theirs). Now, I'm not saying those who haven't received theirs yet shouldn't be upset, because I know I would be at this time if I still had not received mine. But, folks also need to realize that the game has to go to market at some time if the company that makes it is going to survive. You will get what's coming to you. The fact that others can buy it now won't prevent that.
Has anyone found an easy way to separate the NSFW deck from the original deck? I have tried to do it by reading the cards but I guess my NSFW filter is really low and I am having trouble splitting them up.
Yeah the sets listed at $150 on eBay are going to take a hit.
@BaKhan, they deserve what they get. Trying to profit off of others' hard work is a slimy thing to do.
@nahidl, in faint writing on the lower left side of the cards it tells you. Either NSFW or 1st edition.
I actually suspect that is the reason for EK selling it as quickly as they have. Not to make another fist full of cash, but to regulate the greedy bastards on eBay.
That's a good point. There's probably something to that.
You might be right Rod
They're/ were selling for a ridulous amount
Yes! I'm on the board!
@House Arrest, has your phone been hanging out with Trinkets phone again?
Maybe? Where has trinkets phone been?
Drinking, lots!
Trinkets' phone is the biggest lush I've ever met
Could be, my phone has been known to be a bit of a lush
NAHIDL: Since this is moving really fast, I'll say it again: on the lower left hand corner of the cards it either says "First Edition" or "NSFW".
I think EK should post an update, specifically addressing this issue. It won't stop the complainers, but it will reassure the majority of the backers. Best thing to do is get out in front of it.
My phone is pretty square as phones go. Boring, anti-social, not many fun things you can do with it...
I like that idea of why it was released so early, though. I'm laughing hard at all the "buy this now or you'll hate yourself forever. Normally it's $20, but for you, only $150!" decks.
I like how I left for a 10 minute video and had to scroll half a page to read all I missed! What's gonna happen when I go for supper here soon? Oh well, that should only be about 15 minutes or so total.
I'm pretty sure cellphones take after their owners so you might be describing yourself...
Welp its home time corps! Great "seeing" you again House Arrest!
Yeah the best thing they can do is post an update and clear the air. Right now a lot of angry people are making assumptions
Yeah you too BaKhan!
Good night, BaKhan!
Hiya House Arrest! Good to see you again! I have to take off for a Village Board meeting in my prospective new Village of residence. I need to get a feel for these people if I'm going to run against some of them for election. See ya'll later tonight. Keep yer heads down, the incoming fore is likely to get hot and heavy as backers find out about Amazon.
Good lunch, Zem!
Hi PoT! Village meeting sounds boring AF have fun! I'm sure to here
Heheh...PoT is going to meet the village people
new member maybe?
The Village People, now featuring The POWERS OF TESLA!!!
I'd go see that show
oh definitely
LZ, https://www.youtube.com/watch…
that's what I think more of, especially with him trying to change the fence laws or whatever.
just how high do you have to be to come up with those lyrics
It's about an ideal place, like a mental getaway, but I'm not quite sure what inspired some of those lyrics, yeah. It's a great song though. First heard it in Hot Fuzz, one of my favorite movies of all time.
Sorry, misplaced my phone. Or more closely, my phone ran away to drink again.
Better get that phone into a program
I don't mean to be downer because I think the game is a lot of fun and the packaging is fantastic as well. However, the quality of the cards should be a lot better. Some of my cards are already getting bent corners and even separating from the card backs. I really wished they spent some of the 8 plus million on better quality cards.
I see the NSFW deck is now on sale to non-backers. What did you mean by "kickstarter exclusive"?
@Mario
Have you thought about getting some sleeves to protect your cards?
@Pete, I don't think we will be getting an answer for that.
Mario: they almost lost money as it is. They're standard quality cards, if you've ever used a standard poker deck before. Actually, they're sturdier than Bicycle cards.
Pete, I think that went out the door when they sold over 220,000 orders. The special stuff was supposed to stay special edition, but I think when they made a million decks overall, they realized it could stay. Besides, it's their first expansion deck. I think it's a great idea to keep that; it'll be right alongside Cards Against Humanity as a dorm-room favorite. However, they're also rearing to sell the KS-exclusive boxes, but I'm certain that's just to get rid of all else they over-produced and won't actually go on sale like the other decks. Also, we think the decks went on sale just to put a dent in the people trying to sell their own boxes for a profit.
@Zem, even though I fully support the idea that it's overages they are selling on Amazon, and when they are gone it will be more of a "regular" box and decks and not the KS stuff, I don't think we will be getting an official explanation from the EK team on why the KS exclusive stuff is being sold to the public.
Also, how were your classes today?
What classes?
I agree with you there Eric. I don't think we're going to get a real answer. I just know, in my mind, if they had said that any extra stock would be sold after the campaign, I still would have pledged the same.
I don't buy it that they couldn't make it exclusive at the volume they did. Two very good reasons, (1) it's much easier to make a run of something in volume, the cost would go down considerably when you're making a quarter-million copies. (2) They didn't turn it into a full deck until much much later. By that point it was already obvious it was going to be a volume project. The fact is a number of people bought multiple copies because this was to be their only chance for the special stuff. (make sure you have x-mas gifts, extra copies in case of damage, play-through, etc.) With as few as you see on eBay (compared to the total) by far most people that got multiple copies weren't planning on selling them. We ponied up ahead of time on a game we've never played to get extra copies of something that would never be sold again on the chance that we'd love it so much we'd play a copy all the way through.
Good point trinkets. We probably won't and we'll be left here to defend ourselves against the mighty demon hordes of the democratic-republic of internet.
Organic Chemistry was kinda fun, mostly because I love chemistry and know everyone in the front couple rows who just instinctively sat in the same order again. In general Physics, my professor is from Holland, which is kind of weird. (see what I did there?) But after that, I have 10 minutes hopefully to get all the way across campus to the Performing Arts building for the biggest course I've ever taken, a communications one that likely 80+% of the students are taking just for credit.
Then I bought 50 pounds of books for chemistry, an online code for the communications class, and just got the online thing for physics. CHEMISTRY!!!
Hey, Tchotchke, how's it going?
Zem's classes.
Oh, that's what's going on. Didn't the old wizard warn of what would happen if both Erics got together?! I mean, if I and Derp joined forces, the world as we know it would end, but this is pretty bad as it is.
Now all we need is Eric Idle or some name that starts with a C, like Coulson, and we'll have a 3-stooges get together, huh?