Hmm...I don't see anyone has claimed Smittens...or it just hasn't been updated...if they haven't been claimed, may I claim them to be paired with my Ba'alittens?
Bob "Powers of Tesla" Lindley 2015-02-12T13:07:50-05:00
I am fascinated by this concept that the creative team has "made millions". Granted, they will each walk away with an exceptional payday. But with pre-production costs, production, packaging, shipping and incidentals they will be doing well to walk away with a 30% profit. Okay, that's north of 600K each, but it isn't millions.
Marie "Catness" C 2015-02-12T13:07:56-05:00
Cheetah, I'm not about the batittens, but I'm all about the badgittens or berserkittens (badger kittens, or berserker kittens).
Alright my veins are pumping with b12. The nurse asked me what I'd been up to this week, I said exploding kittens, not sure I'll get her as a FB like but I tried
@Potatten Oh absolutely - their product warranted this kind of support, and therefore they deserve the money they're getting. I'm just hopeful. ;) I would not at all be upset or angry if we didn't hit 30 and therefore didn't get the last goal. I was happy we got 20 for the rad box.
Joe 2015-02-12T13:08:56-05:00
@mike @Evan
Moreover, one needs to consider the cost of the product and distribution. There may be $6m in pledges but that is also 150k plus products that need to be made packaged and shipped.
Marie "Catness" C 2015-02-12T13:10:03-05:00
Mike, there's still time to achieve another ears photo and maybe reach the Facebook goal.
Eric 'Tchotchke' Aschner 2015-02-12T13:10:17-05:00
Once again...
Projected costs of a $35 deck (Warning, only my guesstimate):
KS cut - 5% = $1.75
Credit card processing fees - 3-5% = $1.40
Pre-fulfilment survey and processing - 3-5% = $1.40
Actual card production on decent cards - $2/pack = $4
Instructions / box / packaging = $2
'Thing-of-incredible-delight' = $2 (may vary depending on where you buy your delights)
Freight to Partners = $.50
Postal packing and shipping first class = $4
Sales tax - 7% = $2.45 (avg amongst the states by pop. I'm guessing)
Fulfilment partner cut = $2 (best guess from Amazon's site)
==========
Revenue = $35 - $1.75 - $1.40 - $1.40 = $30.45
Costs = $4 + $2 + $2 + $.50 + $4 + $2.45 + $2 = $16.95
Profit per unit = $13.50 (39% of top line revenue)
The single decks are $15 cheaper, but only save about $5.25 in shipping and production costs. They're making less money per unit on the $20 / deck version compared to the $35 for two version.
Most of the excess revenue will still be pumped into production to produce games to sell after the KS. If they do keep any money, they have to pay income tax on it.
@Joe: I certainly do, they aren't making anywhere near as much as people think.... there's still post-production product and retail sales to maintain after this is over as well.
Marie "Catness" C 2015-02-12T13:10:32-05:00
27 short of 86k on the book o' faces.
Anja "Cha!" Allen 2015-02-12T13:10:40-05:00
@DDD and @CheetahButt...Flittermittens or (batkittens) read bats + kittens hybrids are part of my hoard ehrm horde :)
Mike Deskin 2015-02-12T13:10:42-05:00
@Catness Yep! I'm not giving up hope. Been bugging folks to at least go the Twitter/Facebook route. ^^
@Joe: Then take into account the people who ordered multiple decks too. I know I did. Just need to figure out if I will need to add more for the shipping when the time comes...hopefully I can adjust accordingly when the campaign ends...really want all the decks I pledged for.
Have we hit 30 achievements yet, it's hard to tell what they are counting from the fb page
Ollie 'Reach' Denning 2015-02-12T13:15:02-05:00
Have we hit 30 achievements yet, it's hard to tell what they are counting from the fb page
Marie "Catness" C 2015-02-12T13:15:22-05:00
Depends entirely on the type of trinket.
Joe 2015-02-12T13:15:33-05:00
Long story short:
Dev team are now independently wealthy because of project alone? No
Dev team excited that they did something really cool? Yes
Eric 'Tchotchke' Aschner 2015-02-12T13:15:38-05:00
I'm assuming the international shipping on average will be a wash with what they're charging + the $5 shipping cost already built in for domestic.
Marie "Catness" C 2015-02-12T13:15:44-05:00
Ollie, you can check the story page. We're currently at 29.
Bob "Powers of Tesla" Lindley 2015-02-12T13:15:45-05:00
Welcome Newcomers! Please take a moment to read….
KITTENCORPS ACCOMPLISHMENTS:
Website created by backer community with FAQs, tips on how to unlock stretch goals, awesomest webcomic and Coat of Paws: http://kittencorps.com/ YouTube Channel KittenCorps Music List: Look for Exploding Kittens - KittenCorps Play List https://www.youtube.com/playlist…
@Joe: That's all we here in the EKKSCSC have ever tried to say.
Marie "Catness" C 2015-02-12T13:17:05-05:00
Reach, the pending achievements are the cat ears, Facebook, Twitter, and money. We currently evaluate cat ears or Facebook to be the most likely to be accomplished.
"Diamond Dan" Drake 2015-02-12T13:17:28-05:00
Facebook has made it to over 86k now.
Anja "Cha!" Allen 2015-02-12T13:17:57-05:00
@CheetahButt @DDD...thank you! :) I've also not yet asked my friend for a Batitten or Fliitermitten image so that would be super cool if there's already an image *smiles*
@Potatten: Okay...your acronym there is slightly confusing me with the last two letters, S & C,...I get the Exploding Kittens Kickstarter Campaing(or Comment then Section)
Then why don't I have the address in my phone? Where is it...details, we need details.
Marie "Catness" C 2015-02-12T13:28:52-05:00
Moar Ridiculousness!! MOAR!!
Mike Kabala 2015-02-12T13:29:06-05:00
OK, I have a Flittermitten image up. I had to clip its wings a bit to get it to fit. I'll probably wait until I get the animation before I do any more fine-tuning.
Tamara "Miss Puss" 2015-02-12T13:30:04-05:00
hi guys, I'm back! what did I miss the last 10 hours? :P
Mike Kabala 2015-02-12T13:31:57-05:00
Before it slips my mind, I'm claiming Flutterbyes, a Kitten/Butterfly hybrid that drops exploding dead mice on its victims.
I want to find another song to parody/ make about exploding kittens. Does anyone have any ideas?
- Maybe we could get The Key of Awesome in on this song singing achievement.
Mike Kabala 2015-02-12T13:37:14-05:00
@Paradoxica, really? I would have thought that butterfly wings would be all stringy.
Mike Kabala 2015-02-12T13:38:36-05:00
Thanks for the idea though. I'll be sure that my Flutterbyes' wings are carbon fiber reinforced.
"Diamond Dan" Drake 2015-02-12T13:38:45-05:00
Yeah, and the little wing scales flake off and are very dustlike.
Marie "Catness" C 2015-02-12T13:39:11-05:00
Does anyone have smart lights? I'm trying to decide which ones to get.
Chris "The Historian" Loth 2015-02-12T13:39:46-05:00
@Blondie, I've given up every trying to catch up on comments, I just attempt to jump in when/where I can. :)
Mike Kabala 2015-02-12T13:39:58-05:00
... with mylar wing scales ...
Chris "The Historian" Loth 2015-02-12T13:40:17-05:00
@Historian: That's a little like hitting a nail on it's head...
Chris "The Historian" Loth 2015-02-12T13:42:39-05:00
@Blondie, I figure one day I'll scan through the json on kittencorps.com so see what I missed. Besides, if you're in the stream long enough, if something really important was said earlier it usually comes back around anyway. :)
@CheetahButt - They were gummy Butterflies made of delicious sugar. I would never try to eat a regular butterfly. I have a feeling they would be crunchy and wiggle too much.
Mike Kabala 2015-02-12T13:43:00-05:00
@The Historian, for some reason dat ain't workin'.
Chris "The Historian" Loth 2015-02-12T13:43:00-05:00
@Dr. P, sometimes that nail just needs to be hit :)
"Diamond Dan" Drake 2015-02-12T13:44:02-05:00
@blondie - True, though you could skim through more and more quickly when 50% was just ProfF's ramblings.
Chris "The Historian" Loth 2015-02-12T13:44:09-05:00
@CB, watchout for the little blister on your finger and that little blister on your thumb
Mike Kabala 2015-02-12T13:44:53-05:00
@The Historian, :-)
Chris "The Historian" Loth 2015-02-12T13:45:11-05:00
@DDD, I think your 50% reduction is on the light side... I'm thinking closer to 65, maybe 70%
I usually go by summary (here's talk about this thing.... still talking.... change of subject.... F... F.... relevant information-----..... explosions.)
Chris "The Historian" Loth 2015-02-12T13:45:53-05:00
@CB, well, no time to waste, I gotta install those microwave ovens...
"Diamond Dan" Drake 2015-02-12T13:46:59-05:00
@historian - Perhaps. Curious to see some number crunching on that. Amount of interactive discussion vs spam and inane sputterings. We could call it the F ratio.
Mike Kabala 2015-02-12T13:47:30-05:00
I just about get caught up and someone invents another Mutatten, forcing me to update the website and start over. That's what the email is for people!
Well even inane sputterings can be interaction. The spamming is the problem....
Chris "The Historian" Loth 2015-02-12T13:47:55-05:00
@DDD, if only I could work that into my graduate thesis somehow... :)
Anja "Cha!" Allen 2015-02-12T13:48:53-05:00
@CheetaButt...we all appreciate your toiling, blood, tears, and sweat shed in the name of keeping the KittenCorps Book of Books updated and in order *smiles*
Mike Kabala 2015-02-12T13:49:05-05:00
custom
Mike Kabala 2015-02-12T13:49:11-05:00
kitchen
Chris "The Historian" Loth 2015-02-12T13:49:12-05:00
@Dr. P, fair enough, we'll have to account for that in the F ratio equation
Mike Kabala 2015-02-12T13:49:17-05:00
delivery
Chris "The Historian" Loth 2015-02-12T13:49:50-05:00
stop screwing around CB, we need to move these refrigerators!
What they choose to do with ANY profits, also irrelevant. That's their prerogative, no one gets a say other than them as individuals.
Hmm...I don't see anyone has claimed Smittens...or it just hasn't been updated...if they haven't been claimed, may I claim them to be paired with my Ba'alittens?
I am fascinated by this concept that the creative team has "made millions". Granted, they will each walk away with an exceptional payday. But with pre-production costs, production, packaging, shipping and incidentals they will be doing well to walk away with a 30% profit. Okay, that's north of 600K each, but it isn't millions.
Cheetah, I'm not about the batittens, but I'm all about the badgittens or berserkittens (badger kittens, or berserker kittens).
Alright my veins are pumping with b12. The nurse asked me what I'd been up to this week, I said exploding kittens, not sure I'll get her as a FB like but I tried
Smurittens: The blue smurf kittens.....
@Potatten Oh absolutely - their product warranted this kind of support, and therefore they deserve the money they're getting. I'm just hopeful. ;) I would not at all be upset or angry if we didn't hit 30 and therefore didn't get the last goal. I was happy we got 20 for the rad box.
@mike @Evan
Moreover, one needs to consider the cost of the product and distribution. There may be $6m in pledges but that is also 150k plus products that need to be made packaged and shipped.
Mike, there's still time to achieve another ears photo and maybe reach the Facebook goal.
Once again...
Projected costs of a $35 deck (Warning, only my guesstimate):
KS cut - 5% = $1.75
Credit card processing fees - 3-5% = $1.40
Pre-fulfilment survey and processing - 3-5% = $1.40
Actual card production on decent cards - $2/pack = $4
Instructions / box / packaging = $2
'Thing-of-incredible-delight' = $2 (may vary depending on where you buy your delights)
Freight to Partners = $.50
Postal packing and shipping first class = $4
Sales tax - 7% = $2.45 (avg amongst the states by pop. I'm guessing)
Fulfilment partner cut = $2 (best guess from Amazon's site)
==========
Revenue = $35 - $1.75 - $1.40 - $1.40 = $30.45
Costs = $4 + $2 + $2 + $.50 + $4 + $2.45 + $2 = $16.95
Profit per unit = $13.50 (39% of top line revenue)
The single decks are $15 cheaper, but only save about $5.25 in shipping and production costs. They're making less money per unit on the $20 / deck version compared to the $35 for two version.
Most of the excess revenue will still be pumped into production to produce games to sell after the KS. If they do keep any money, they have to pay income tax on it.
@Joe: I certainly do, they aren't making anywhere near as much as people think.... there's still post-production product and retail sales to maintain after this is over as well.
27 short of 86k on the book o' faces.
@DDD and @CheetahButt...Flittermittens or (batkittens) read bats + kittens hybrids are part of my hoard ehrm horde :)
@Catness Yep! I'm not giving up hope. Been bugging folks to at least go the Twitter/Facebook route. ^^
@Joe: Then take into account the people who ordered multiple decks too. I know I did. Just need to figure out if I will need to add more for the shipping when the time comes...hopefully I can adjust accordingly when the campaign ends...really want all the decks I pledged for.
Cha! Alright, you can have my batkits.
Guess I need to redo those numbers though. Better boxes and an additional trinket will drop it slightly again still.
@Idle/Wild...was that a proposition? ;)
Perhaps if BatCat were simply a normal kitten in a bat suit...
@Owen
this is also true
There may also be some moneys tied up in trademarking if they wish to go that route
Ummm, no.
They also don't account for legal fees or international shipping.... there's a lot of hidden expenses in a business.
Hungry. Any ideas?
Trinkets!
Duh! ... Thanks @Cha! You will get the image after @DDD is finished with it.
@Tchotchke. My guess that fancy box is going to add a bunch of expense per unit.
Trinkets. How long to bake them?
Have we hit 30 achievements yet, it's hard to tell what they are counting from the fb page
Have we hit 30 achievements yet, it's hard to tell what they are counting from the fb page
Depends entirely on the type of trinket.
Long story short:
Dev team are now independently wealthy because of project alone? No
Dev team excited that they did something really cool? Yes
I'm assuming the international shipping on average will be a wash with what they're charging + the $5 shipping cost already built in for domestic.
Ollie, you can check the story page. We're currently at 29.
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Reach, a photo has been submitted for consideration for the 100 cat-eared challenge, but we're not thinking it will count.
@Joe: That's all we here in the EKKSCSC have ever tried to say.
Reach, the pending achievements are the cat ears, Facebook, Twitter, and money. We currently evaluate cat ears or Facebook to be the most likely to be accomplished.
Facebook has made it to over 86k now.
@CheetahButt @DDD...thank you! :) I've also not yet asked my friend for a Batitten or Fliitermitten image so that would be super cool if there's already an image *smiles*
Agreed. And we're sticking to it.
I must have a hoard protection sensor ;)
@Potatten: Okay...your acronym there is slightly confusing me with the last two letters, S & C,...I get the Exploding Kittens Kickstarter Campaing(or Comment then Section)
Exploding Kittens KickStarter Comment Section Community.
Ah, okay. After hitting Post Comment, I thought it would be community, but wasn't 100% sure.
Potatten, that's a lot of letters.
That needs to go in the index
Or maybe people just shouldn't use it because it's ridiculous... just a thought. :-P
Just use EKKC(Exploding Kittens Kitten Corp) when referencing this bunch of people.
@Catness: The ridiculousness is the entire point!
EKKCCC Exploding Kittens Kitten Corps Community Center.
@Potatten: Is that where KittenCon is held?
INDEED!!!!
Then why don't I have the address in my phone? Where is it...details, we need details.
Moar Ridiculousness!! MOAR!!
OK, I have a Flittermitten image up. I had to clip its wings a bit to get it to fit. I'll probably wait until I get the animation before I do any more fine-tuning.
hi guys, I'm back! what did I miss the last 10 hours? :P
Before it slips my mind, I'm claiming Flutterbyes, a Kitten/Butterfly hybrid that drops exploding dead mice on its victims.
@Cheetah: Have Smittens been claimed? If not, they can be a by-product of my Ba'alittens, as well as part of my army/minion pool.
I just like the name "Flutterbye," which is what I call butterflies, since by the time you see them, they're always fluttering by.
Anyways, be back after I get lunch.
@CheetahButt - I literally tore the wings off of a butterfly with my teeth yesterday. They were tasty.
Whoa.
Good morning all! Oh boy another 500+ comments to sift through XD
Man, project is unstoppable. Go you kittens go.
I want to find another song to parody/ make about exploding kittens. Does anyone have any ideas?
- Maybe we could get The Key of Awesome in on this song singing achievement.
@Paradoxica, really? I would have thought that butterfly wings would be all stringy.
Thanks for the idea though. I'll be sure that my Flutterbyes' wings are carbon fiber reinforced.
Yeah, and the little wing scales flake off and are very dustlike.
Does anyone have smart lights? I'm trying to decide which ones to get.
@Blondie, I've given up every trying to catch up on comments, I just attempt to jump in when/where I can. :)
... with mylar wing scales ...
@CB, will your flutterbyes be EU friendly?
@Historian: That's how to do it....
@Historian - As a completionist I feel the need to at least attempt to catch up by skimming the comments if it's under 1000 new ones XD
I MIGHT MISS SOMETHING! lol
@Dr. P, let me guess, money is for nuthin' and the chicks are free?
@Historian: That's a little like hitting a nail on it's head...
@Blondie, I figure one day I'll scan through the json on kittencorps.com so see what I missed. Besides, if you're in the stream long enough, if something really important was said earlier it usually comes back around anyway. :)
@CheetahButt - They were gummy Butterflies made of delicious sugar. I would never try to eat a regular butterfly. I have a feeling they would be crunchy and wiggle too much.
@The Historian, for some reason dat ain't workin'.
@Dr. P, sometimes that nail just needs to be hit :)
@blondie - True, though you could skim through more and more quickly when 50% was just ProfF's ramblings.
@CB, watchout for the little blister on your finger and that little blister on your thumb
@The Historian, :-)
@DDD, I think your 50% reduction is on the light side... I'm thinking closer to 65, maybe 70%
I usually go by summary (here's talk about this thing.... still talking.... change of subject.... F... F.... relevant information-----..... explosions.)
@CB, well, no time to waste, I gotta install those microwave ovens...
@historian - Perhaps. Curious to see some number crunching on that. Amount of interactive discussion vs spam and inane sputterings. We could call it the F ratio.
I just about get caught up and someone invents another Mutatten, forcing me to update the website and start over. That's what the email is for people!
cheetahbutt@kittencorps.com
Well even inane sputterings can be interaction. The spamming is the problem....
@DDD, if only I could work that into my graduate thesis somehow... :)
@CheetaButt...we all appreciate your toiling, blood, tears, and sweat shed in the name of keeping the KittenCorps Book of Books updated and in order *smiles*
custom
kitchen
@Dr. P, fair enough, we'll have to account for that in the F ratio equation
delivery
stop screwing around CB, we need to move these refrigerators!
Use pi, it should come out as a nice round number.
@DDD, given some time I could pull this sort of information out of my JSON-dump.
@CB: lol
@Historian...and what was your most interesting part of the day so far (offline)?